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    • Moguls cost £5000-£6000 dependent on build year. They were trialled against an S on the GN main line in the 30s so not unfeasible that GSR could have arranged similar. Probably a bit small for Cork trains but could have done pretty much anything else - they did a lot of GN-region mileage at the end of their lives and could handle most things. The Jeeps interestingly did not do well on the Derry Road due to their limited braking capacity as opposed to tender locos.   
    • 800s were 12k a pop, not a clue for 850, nor the NCC locos. the GNRI V class cost just under 6k a pop sans tender, with the SG3s costing just under 9k a pop with tender. I'm unsure of the axle load on the moguls, but on the Jeeps it was 17.8 tons, which was too heavy for the Warrenpoint branch (though the UTA stopped caring about that toward the end). Secondary routes in the Republic seemed to have a limit around 16-17 tons. Innovation does cost money, but modern 'standard' locos with everything being 'get-at-able' as Maunsell would reduce downtime quite a bit, and building locos in bigger numbers brings down cost and maintenance further. Tenders would almost certainly be second-hand on the moguls. If the GSR move toward a policy of shorter, more regular workings they may also bring in more money as they are better able to compete with road traffic. I'll (shockingly) be keeping the 800s for my own alternate timeline. They are built toward the tail end of the GSR at any rate. The problem with electrification, especially OHLE, would be money. It is extremely expensive to build. However I do wonder, considering the Southern (in Britain) was electrifying with third rail, if it could make its way over here? If the 850 can be refined somewhat to iron out the kinks, I think it has the potential to be the Southern Jeep counterpart. Clements and McMahon consider a 2-6-4 based off the Woolwich design as was done in Britain, but rule it out as a go anywhere due to axle load. 850 has an axle load of 16 tons. Even if modifications bring that up to 16.5 or 17 it'd still be quite good. 
    • Prototype and production HST power cars at the MPD on Ashburton grove. 
    • Who's to say that the Drumm battery system itself couldn't be further developed?
    • You say that as if there wasn’t a coordinated mass arson attack against Irish rail’s infrastructure last Sunday 
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